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to bring bills to the floor unless they got a majority support from republicans. speaker john boehner of ohio violated that longstanding rule last night and in the process he became the only member of the leadership of his party who voted in favor of the bill. eric cantor and kevin mccarthy joined the majority of their party in voting no. boehner did find support from one key republican, paul ryan of wisconsin also voted yes. the main sticking point for republicans, a lack of spending cuts. hours before last night's votes, republicans considered trying to amend the bill from the senate and add additional spending cuts in. the senate made it clear they had no intention of revisiting this idea. so if changes were made that would essentially kill it. before the vote, republicans took to the floor and voiced their concerns. >> there are no spending cuts. we're adding $4 billion a day to the debt. the senate failed in cutting spending. >> i thought we were in a deficit crisis. i thought families were put at risk by this massive debt. what does this do about that? >> it was way past those s
you don't want to be is john boehner. he's under fire from both democrats and republicans for not helping victims of sandy. >>> plus secretary of state hillary clinton is expected to make a full recovery after suffering a blood clot near her brain. so much for her critics on the far right who suggested she was faking being sick to avoid testifying about benghazi. >>> and let me finish with the reason it's hard to avoid a fiscal cliff. we begin with whether anyone really won in the fiscal cliff standoff. howard fineman is the director for the "huffington post" media group, steven walsh with the wall street journal. let's look at who came out the winner on this fight. on the right there's some significant disagreement. here's what bill kristol wrote just before the house vote. quote, politically republicans are escaping with a better outcome than they might have expected. and president obama has gotten relatively little at his moment of greatest strength. then there's conservative commentator charles krauthammer. >> in the house who hate the bill and for good reason. i mean,
within 48 hours. >> speaker john boehner voted for the deal, breaking the republican leaders eric cantor of virginia and kevin mccarthy of california who voted against. paul ryan joined speaker boehner, voting for the bill. after the vote, president obama tried to set the terms for the fiscal fights ahead in a rare late-night appearance with joe biden by his side in the briefing room. >> the one thing that i think hopefully in the new year we'll focus on is seeing if we can put a package like this together, with a little bit less drama, a little less brinksmanship, not scare the heck out of folks quite as much. >> but republicans are already looking ahead to another budget showdown in late february. that's when the temporary delay on domestic and military spending cuts expires and when congress must raise the $16.4 trillion debt ceiling limit to avoid default. >> save your powder for the debt ceiling fight. we have leverage at the debt ceiling to make this president face up to the fact that we're spending our way into oblivion. >> last night, the president warned republicans not to use t
. the president had put serious spending cuts on the table. he and speaker boehner a week and a half ago were this close in a $4 trillion deal, they were 200 billion apart on revenues and 200 billion apart on cuts and then what happened, all of a sudden, speaker boehner decided to do this plan b. he went back and for a week tried to raise the amount that you would extend the bush tax cuts to people over a million dollars, couldn't get -- the plan was flawed from the beginning. instead of trying to get a bipartisan deal with democrats and republicans he try the to win over the 50 most hard right conservatives in his body. it fell -- wait, wait, it fell apart and it's leading us to this last minute so our choice is simple. avoid the fiscal cliff and people's taxes going up or do nothing and let it happen. we didn't want to be in that position but speaker boehner pulled out of the deal a week and a half ago. it's not fair to blame the president. >> i have to ask you about this question. this is one of the big sticking points left. whose taxes go up, people making over $250,000 as the president w
departure, the president called all four congressional leaders, reid, mcconnell, boehner and pelosi. now fiery words after reid hit boehner with volley after volley from the senate floor earlier today. >> if we go over the cliff and it looks like that's where we're headed, mr. president, the house of representatives as we speak with four days after today aren't here with the speaker having told them they'll have 48-hours notice. i can't imagine their conscie e consciences. >> speaker boehner's office responding with a terse statement saying in part, quote, senator reid should talk less and legislate more. the house already passed legislation to avoid the entire fiscal cliff. senate democrats have not. joining me now from d.c. nbc news white house correspondent peter alexander. peter, there was word the last hour that the president may have sent some sort of deal. the white house then turning around saying that's not true at all. where was the confusion? >> reporter: well, you hear the frosty statements back and forth as you just indicated there, craig. ah, the holidays in washington. a
in place. >> is john boehner sticking to the old rule, the denny hastert rule, that you need a majority to bring it up for a vote. if the majority is not there of the republicans who are the majority in the house, he is not going to bring it up for a vote, or are they discarding that give this current crisis? >> he's never been officially wedded to that majority of the majority idea. that has certainly been his goal in most if not all of the legislation that he's brought to the floor. this and a few others have tested that goal for sure, but look, this is something that republican speakers, hastert included, starting with hastert, have wanted to do to make sure they have the support with within, to make sure that there isn't any kind of revolt, there isn't a question of their leadership. even though it has not been an easy road for john boehner, and that has been an understatement, i have not detected any real sentiment in the rank and file to have anybody but john boehner as their leader. to be honest with you, based on what boehner has gone through, it is hard to see anyone wanting th
and boehner are meeting to discuss the fiscal cliff. we are hearing the president's planning to present a smaller offer. for the latest, we bring in peter alexander from the white house and mike viqueira from capitol hill. peter, let's talk about what's going on at the white house meeting. i hear senators are optimistic about a mini deal which, of course, will raise taxes on those above $400,000. expand the amt, cut some spending. what are you hearing? >> reporter: well, hearing a lot of different things right now. one of the items and ruled by rumor and then denials and frustrations, toure. we know that we saw senators mcconnell and reid arriving a short time ago. we didn't pelosi and boehner arrive yet but the vice president joe biden got here a short time ago, as well. there's other reporting from the hill right now about the potential that the president is going to return to what was basically his original outlined plan. perhaps a smaller plan but a plan where the threshold would be set closer to $250,000 as he initially had before the $400,000 offer that john boehner the white hous
to talk about that. but that's a reality. >> and so where does this leave speaker boehner? i know speaker boehner voted yes. is there a significance to that? >> originally, the speaker had said he would not bring anything to the floor that didn't have a majority of republicans. almost two to one, the republicans voted against this proposal. so that's a break with his policy. usually speakers don't vote on legislation. but to make his point, boehner voted yes. i don't know how cantor voted, but i kind of think he probably voted no to make a distinction between himself and boehner. but the majority of the republicans voted against this bill. but the real crucial thing was that boehner was successful in getting -- was that they agreed not to have amendments on the bill, that it was a clean bill, and if that hadn't been done, then we'd be back to square one and over the cliff again. >> the edge on dc now. >>> another violent crime on board a metro bus. this a woman stabbed on mlk boulevard and southeast. about 2:15 this morning, a woman stabbed in the chest and another hit in the head before
republicans blast their own party from speaker boehner on down for failing to pass a sandy relief package. elaine quijano is covering. over the cliff and back. nancy cordes and wyatt andrews on the new year's night budget deal and how a tax break for racetracks got in it. obesity is a health risk. but researchers now say being a little overweight could reduce your risk of dying. dr. jon lapook with a surprising new report. and she was one of the most popular sickers ever. remembering patti page. ♪ i was dancing with my darling to the tennessee waltz ♪ captioning sponsored by cbs this is the "cbs evening news" with scott pelley. >> pelley>> mason: good evening, scott's off tonight. the sigh of relief that came when the house passed the fiscal cliff deal was soon drowned out by a roar of anger. governors chris christie of new jersey and andrew cuomo of new york along with senators and house members from those states blasted house speaker john boehner today for putting off a vote on aid for victims of superstorm sandy. we have three reports on all this tonight. first, elaine quijano on t
cuts and spending cuts kicked in. speaker john boehner has been trying to overcome some seriously stiff republican opposition. our senior congressional correspondent dana bash is beginninging our coverage this hour. dana, what's the very latest as far as republicans in the house, the majority are concerned? >> reporter: the very latest, wolf, is that down this hallway is the house speaker's office. in that house right now are minutes of the house republican leadership having a discussion, what are they going to do? are they going to have a vote tonight and more importantly, are they going to try to put this senate-passed bill on the house floor with an amendment. it was very clear in talking to many, many house republicans coming out of a meeting they had earlier this afternoon that there was a big desire to have an amendment with some spending cuts. in fact, i spoke with one of those republicans, steve la tour receipt. >> the speaker, to his credit, says we are famous for putting poison pills in pieces of legislation and they can say, that's a poison pill. he's asked that we be respons
24 hours before the tax increases that it's up to john boehner to fix things surprises me and disappoints me a great deal. >> eric: obviously, you are faulting, in your view, a lack of presidential leadership? not only faulting, i think a lot of folks are not focused, i have believed that the president wants to go over the cliff. peter orszag, telling the president 3 and 4 years that the tax rates needed to go up. howard dean was making the rounds for months, saying that tax rates need to go up. nancy pelosi thinks the tax rates should go up on everybody. does the president have the political will to go against his own party? what we are seeing so far, he is not. we read his first offer, when he sat down with mr. boehner, mr. boehner said here's $800 billion for revenue and what do i get for that? the president allegedly said, that's for free. that's not evidence 6 somebody who wants a deal who, wants to lead. >> eric: what would you like to see? >> i would like to see a clean deal. i would like to see something that fixes the problem. keep in mind, one of the things that
boehner kept his word on an up or down vote. we he just had new video of the speaker walking into the chamber, walking towards the chamber and there you see him getting ready to cast his vote on the rule. let's listen. do we have audio? it was the silent movie version of john boehner walking to the house chamber. but there was a lot of back and forth today among republicans and definitely within the media when the house majority leader eric cantor came up and said i do not support this bill. mike emanuel back at his post on capitol hill. there was speculation, was this a move by cantor to create some friction? there will be a vote on speakership thursday when the new congress goes in, the 113th congress, noon on thursday. i guess his people are saying that that is not the case at all. >>> well, that's right. they definitely were trying to walk us away from thinking that there s some soap opera going on here in the republican leadership in the house. but it has been a bruising fight in recent weeks for speaker john boehner. remember, he was negotiating with president obama and
was negotiating directly with house speaker john boehner. they wanted for years of increases in debt ceiling a party, something republicans were not willing to budge on. without an increase in the debt ceiling, it allows republicans to engage the white house and democrats in yet another fight to cut spending in exchange for raising the debt ceiling, so that's the next fight that the next congress will pick up once it gavels in at noon on the third. diane: we are watching charlie rangel speak as the house members go around and debate the fiscal cliff steal from the senate. i also wanted to talk about , thursday at noon, a new congress in session. the steel expires. what happens at that point? if we don't get a vote now it's kind of a done deal. they start from square one? rich: basically. in fact, if this does not pass this evening, if we don't have enough votes to get this through in your basically at square one. you have to figure out exactly how you're going to deal with tax rates that have gone back to clinton narrates a broadbased tax increases on nearly every one u.s. bank of . that's w
boehner presented this plan b, which would have given -- extended tax cuts to those making less than $1 million and that was soundly rejected by his caucus. he never even presented it to the floor. so basically what he's done is thrown up his hands and said the house is out of this. we're just sitting on the sidelines sadly. so we have to wait and see what the senate is going to do. i was very glad to hear mr. mcconnell and senator reid say that they were going forward trying to work out something. but t.j., we have to address this moment very seriously. because there are so many people who are going to be possibly harmed if we don't act. and so we're just going to have to see what they're able to come up with. >> and i've got some more policy things. but on the politics and the optics of it, explain to people who are watching now who are a couple of days away from their taxes going up. it's hard for them to get their heads around you not being in d.c., that congress or the house at least not being in session. it's as if -- again it's the optics of this thing. it almost sounds like you'
out and showed an olive branch dejon banner ever since he has been in. -- john boehner ever since he has been in. president obama has tried to work with these people to get things done, and they will not work with him. host: let's hear from ron in appleton, wisconsin. caller: i woke up this morning, and i am an engineer, an african-american. i have been blessed with a good income. however, when i woke up this morning, though i feared my taxes going up considerably, i was a bit disappointed. the reason for that is that i'm looking long term. taxes, you have to pay for the debt that we have occurred. at this point, it does not matter how we got there. whether it is republicans and democrats or whatever -- it will take all of us to get out of it. it amazes me that everyone wants everyone else to sacrifice, but when it comes to me, i do not want to give that up. at this point, ok, if you are raising my taxes, ok, but make sure that we take care of the debt. that is the big thing. i'm thinking and 10-20 years down the road. i'm not be around then, but my children will be. host: ok, i appr
, republicans caved in, and scheduled a vote, john boehner did on that senate bill that passed 89-8 the senate passed it on new year's day. the house caved in -- actually -- yeah, it was early, early in the morning on new year's day late last night at about 11:00 the house caved in passed a vote, and passed the senate version, and president obama says he will sign it. we'll get into all of that and of course take your calls at 866-55-press. good to be with you here today. we're coming to you live on current tv, on your local progressive talk radio station and live on sirris tv for this hour only. peter ogburn, and dan henning here. >> we have been working hard. me and phone man phil have been holding down the fort. >> and our videographer siprion bolling who had a couple of days off as well. and we're all back. happy team. happy new year's eve. we celebrated with the millions of people in time square. the whole countdown. [ cheers ] >> that's not as boisterous as i'm used to hearing. >> stephanie: no. no. [ auld lang syne playing ] >> bill: maybe it is harder for
suggested and that he is so far out on a limb it's going to be hard for house speaker john boehner to shove aside his fellow republican leader and not support him, not support getting this legislation through the house. otherwise, all those senate republicans, a vast majority of them that supported this will be hung out to dry. vice president biden, in fact today after he was on the hill, was just having a casual lunch at a sandwich lunch called pot bellies with staffers. he took a casual stroll back over to the white house and talking to reporters as if everything is still on track. in fact, when he was asked about this, he said he still thinks it's going to go through the house. take a listen. >> i hope so. i think so. >> what if the house sends the bill back to the senate? does it have a chance of passing? >> i think we're going to be okay. >> now we're told the vice president by the way ordered a meatball and prove lone. that's probably a good sign because they have another sandwich at that shop called a wreck. that's probably not a good symbol for how they want this to play out. >> i l
and maneuvering in congress. good afternoon. >> reporter: good afternoon, frank and house speaker john boehner did not say that he was for this deal but he didn't say he was against it, either. and right now, he is trying to take the temperature of his fellow republicans in the house to see if this deal is ready for a vote. house speaker john boehner is promising a quick vote on the "fiscal cliff" bill passed early this morning in the senate or an amended alternative. boehner has not endorsed the agreement which may face opposition from conservative lawmakers in the house. vice president joe biden negotiated the deal with senate republicans over the weekend. the agreement makes bush-era tax cuts permanent for individuals making under $400,000 a year and families making under $450,000. it also postpones harsh across- the-board spending cuts for a few months. >> this shouldn't be the model for how we do things around here, but i think we can say we've done some good for the country. >> middle class families will wake up today to the assurance that their taxes won't go up $2,200 each. >> reporter: pr
boehner deferred to senate colleagues and told him house leaders were consider, accept or amend their plan, what's not expected to be included is increasing the debt limit, something that democrats wanted and republicans have resisted. if senate leaders cannot strike a deal, the president wants congress to vote on what would be plan c. it would focus on three key areas, keeping tax cuts for those making $250,000 or less. extending unemployment benefits and delay dramatic spending cuts until late next year. top senate republicans sound hopeful a deal can be reached. >> we are engaged in discussions, majority leader and myself, and the white house in the hopes that we can come forward as early as sunday and have a recommendation that i can make to my conference and the majority leader can make to his conference. >> among the issues to be hammered out shall the threshold for extending the push tax cuts and president obama campaigned and sounds like, 400,000 may be where they're heading. a leader says that permanency is key, and fixing the death tax and a permanent solution for the alternative
on new year's eve, still addicted to spending money. >> last friday, speaker boehner told the senate colleagues to find bipartisan deal and the house would consider, accept or amend their plan. with time running out, house lawmakers were left working on unrelated issues and feeling like the process is broken. >> the american people are looking at congress with disdain and rightfully so. with the deadline on the tis call cliff hours away we failed to reach a reasonable compromise to move the economy forward and ward off painful tax hikes on the middle class. >> february the deal gets done, there are no -- even if the deal gets done no guarantees that republicans in the house will like it. but strong bipartisan support in the senate may help. >> bret: we'll head back for breaking details. mike emanuel on the hill. thanks. ed henry at the white house with the latest there. sned >> going. the president has been mostly watching and waiting but the republicans charge excesstive celebration from the commander-in-chief may spike the deal. >> if we are going to be serious about the deficit an
it out on new york, long island and new jersey, speaker boehner is the one. he walked off the floor, refused to tell us why, refused to give under the circumstances any indication of warning whatsoever, and eric cantor met with us throughout the week, he devised the strategy how to bring it to the floor to make it acceptable to let the republicans who wanted to vote against parts of the bill, they could do that, but the bill was going to pass. the bottom line is here. the republican speaker walked off the floor without allows the vote. i'm just saying these people have no problem finding new york, these republicans, when they're trying to raise money. they raised millions in new york and new jersey. they send governor christie around the country. i'm saying anyone from new york or new jersey who contributes one penny to the republican national campaign committee should have their head examined. i would not give one penny based on what they did last night. i believe a true republican principle, but turning your back on people who are starving and freezing is not a republican value. i
of representatives said, and i have it here somewhere, i don't want to be critical of john, meaning john boehner, but if you don't ever bring something to the floor without the votes. so this is what happened last thursday night where he brought this bill to the floor, his plan b, and it went nowhere. was that a major miscalculation for him? >> it was. look, denny was the speakner nea different time. he could hand out projects to districts of wavering members. and he had a very tough leadership team that went out and got the votes. boehner is not a strong leader. he doesn't have the pork and the earmarks anymore since they've been banned. and a lot of the incoming -- or the folks that came in in 2010, the tea party folks, they look at the tom delay are era and say -- >> they're both long time qulil wat capitol hill watchers, and we have to ask you are you seeing any sway now in following boehner? is he losing support? >> obviously the fact that he thought that he would be able to bring the bill last week to the floor to raise taxes on everybody making a million dollars or more and then had to pu
speaker john boehner could face a challenge. also on the agenda changes in committee assignments and possible revisions to house and senate rules. >>> to massachusetts now where heavy snow is pounding the state and bringing with it freezing temperatures. boston could see up to 8 inches of snow today. the city's mayor has already declared a snow emergency. a top priority is getting the roads cleared for public safety. >> my guys live for this, so they're at their best when this kind of weather comes along. they're all geared up. it's like christmas morning for them. >> the neighbors to the south in rhode island are breaking out the shovels this morning. we'll show you that video. about a foot of snow has already fallen in some parts of the state. i know it's wintertime and it's supposed to snow, but these are the big snows so it's always interesting and kind of fun if you're not in it to look at the video. cnn i-reporters have been busy send inning photos. these are from mark ivy in farmersbu farmersburg, indiana. keep those pictures coming. >>> fiscal cliff, debt, and egos. how m
the debt ceiling and with some of boehner's closest allies had met in the speaker's office and said to him, john if you come back with the deal, that you fashioned with obama this doesn't get more than say 100 votes or so and the republicans, cancer has cantor has started a whispered campaign and you are going to be -- we saw it happen with speaker gingrich and it can happen here. boehner walked away from a deal shortly after that. >> i want to come to the interplay between the leadership on the republican side in in a second but i have to ask this based on what you said. i think you know the president gave what was initially an off the record interview to the "des moines register" editorial board, speaking although he did not get the endorsement of that paper in one of the things he said in the interview was he believed he could get a grand bargain struck on the debt ceiling if he were reelected on november 6. a son what you're saying they may not be possible if if the freshman and now sophomores and many members who come and don't eventually give a nether blessing to cut a deal. in her m
obama cutting his vacation short to avoid the fiscal cliff but house speaker john boehner says the people who need to take action are not in the oval office. >>> as the investigation continues into the deaths of four americans in libya we're learning people who were initially blamed are back on the payroll with little or no punishment. >>> unbelievable video. some aquariumgoers getting way too close to a real live shark. as close as you can get without becoming dinner. it is all "happening now." harris: hello, everyone, i'm harris faulkner, in today for jenna lee. jon: nice to have you up here in the big studio instead of down in the newsroom. harris: good to be here. jon: i'm jon scott. there is deadly weather pounding the united states. a powerful winter storm bringing snow and driving rain to the northeast. blizzard conditions in some areas. it is the same system that brought winter storms and tornados to the south and midwest. at least 12 people have died in this system. we're seeing major travel problems today as well. some areas are getting slammed all night long. anna ko
hard for a deal, gregg. gregg: has the bickering between reid and boehner sort of poisoned the negotiations past the point that, you know, maybe this meeting will help at all? >> reporter: it may have because it's really, we've seen tensions escalate ever since before christmas when john boehner was not able to get a deal through the house where he has a very strong republican majority. he had a rebellion amongst some of his fellow conservatives. that is what held it up. senator harry reid as you say was very rough going directly after boehner yesterday. take a listen. >> the american people i don't think understand the house of representatives is operating without the house of representatives. it's being operated with a dictatorship of the speaker, not allowing the vast majority of the house of representatives to get what they want. >> reporter: the word dictatorship not sitting well at speaker's office of the as you can imagine his spokesman putting out a tough statement of his own saying quote, senator reid should talk less and legislate more. the house already passed le
for congress' performance are different from that which the republicans use. as speaker john boehner has said over and over, the second pass a record low number of those pixel of the congress that were not imposing regulations and not increasing taxes. that's way one of looking on it. the way most people look at it attested to by record low popularity approval rating is that this is a congress that has been defined by dysfunction of the law, a congress in which has never been writer than none and where compromise is really seem to be a foreign-policy, a policy foreign to the roast great deliberative body. >> to think of people who ran in 2010 and got elected with the people who ran before it ended now ascended to of leadership leave no with a solution or they were elected to not do things as opposed to do things? >> again, from the class of 2010 and now i refer to the 87 freshman, the so-called tea party class of the 112 congress, their belief is they are doing precisely what the people who elected them wish to do, which is rollback obama initiatives to cut spending. a lot of them thought the
for the middle class. this magic number to pass was tutored 17. so it did receive. house speaker, john boehner voted " yes. this was the first sign and the next is the president's desk that should happen fairly soon. other big stories two people are killed in a crash after a police chase in san francisco's mission district. it's caught on south bay. our top story tonight.the fiscal cliff. the house is now voting on "fiscal cliff" tax increasesit looks as though the senate-approved bill will get enough votes to pass. for the middle class and earning over 450-thousandit also extends unemployment bill is 217. meaning thea police chase ends in a deadly crash. two people were killed this morning after a driver crashed into a liquor store in san francisco. this is surveillance video. a third person was badly injured. all the victims are in their 20's. >> while the remaining of this is being pulled away from the sidewalk the damage done is horrific. >> this was also in mid to 20 year-old pedestrian walking into the store that was pronounced dead. >> the passenger was also pronounced dead. this comes
-called plan b failed in the house, john boehner, speaker of the house said, look, it's up to the senate. we'll not do anything more. we already passed a bill a while back that would extend bush tax cuts for everybody. it is up to the senate to do something. you have senate minority leader mitch mcconnell, the republican saying it is up to the democrats to do something. we'll not do anything until president obama and the democrats come up with a plan and president obama actually late yesterday did call all four leaders, majority, minority leaders in the house and senate that includes mitch mcconnell and said the first time a democrat called him since thanksgiving to talk about this. so they're talking but there is no indication anybody is actually doing anything right now. gregg: what about harry reid? what's his, does he have anything at all maybe towards the end of the week he will put on the table? i've been hearing he will put to a vote an extension of the bush tax cuts for anybody making under $250,000 a year, extend unemployment benefits for some 2 million people that are about to lose
boehner. they will blame the president. he has political capital that could evaporate. i'm not sure if he gets what he wants -- that is not how american politics necessarily works. host: what led to this meeting? harry reid was sounding pessimistic early in the day. then john boehner calling the house back sunday evening with a vote scheduled after 6:00 p.m., setting up a late sunday session or a lot of fireworks on monday. guest: the redskins-cowboys game is on sunday night. each side staked out a public position it had to stake out. use it at the end there's a sentence saying, but we will talk or negotiate. nothing unusual here to me. i think right now they are doing what they have to do publicly. we do not know what those people in the room at the white house are going to say and that is the key. host: the speaker will attend this meeting. he said the house has passed legislation to avert the fiscal cliff. now the senate must act. senator reid said it is up to the house. explain what is going on. guest: i cannot read john boehner's mind. let's say the senate takes up something where yo
-calling. harry reid called boehner a dictator. i find it strange because they don't call actual dick tears dictators. they never call chavez or castro a dictator but they will call boehner a dictator. are they going to start acting like adults soon. >> the house has done their job. it's ironic to me that harry reid goes after john boehner. the house of representatives did this months ago which is when it should have been done. extended the rates. replaced the across the board cuts with responsible reductions in spending. and, yet, here the senate is pointing the finger at the house of representatives. the speaker is right to say it's up to the senate. and this is where it's going to have to happen. >> all right, senator. thanks at lot. next on the run down do both parties actually want to go over the fiscal cliff to save political face? we'll debate it the state department officials out of their jobs after the benghazi terrorist attack are reportedly still on the payroll. we have details moments away. >> greg: continuing with top story tonight. with days to go. both parties want it to go o
voted on but boehner a company said this opportunity help folks. it doesn't help anyone. 8:00 p.m. on fox business network. we march to a different drummer. fair and balanced drummer. find out the story you don't know. word from the s&p rating agency that maintains the rating on the u.s.. they didn't get a lot done and won't effect the outlook now. no tipping of the hand of what moody's will do. but with the debt and spike over the spending cut the triple-a thing i wouldn't bet on. >> eric: hello. i'm eric bolling with kimberly guilfoyle, bob beckel, dana perino, greg gutfeld. it's 5:00 in new york city. this is "the five." ♪ ♪ >> eric: thanks for joining us for our first show of 2013. my goal this year -- stop it, greg -- is have more fun than any other show on cable news. plen of that for you today. in illinois strip clubs now charge $3 a head and the money goes to charity. true story. hollywood celebs put out a psa on gun control. beckel says diet and for size will kill you. we'll explain that one the clowns in d.c. held us hostage for three months over the fiscal cliff.
: well, you know what, peter? there's not lost love between boehner and president obama. are they going to meet? >> reporter: they might, gregg. the speaker is expected to return to washington soon but we still don't know of a specific time set aside on his calendar to meet with the president. actually the last we heard from the speaker he said that since voters in november picked republicans to control the house, he is going to stay true to his party's principles in december in the course of making any kind of a compromise. >> the american people reelected president obama on election day. they also reelected a republican majority here in the house. in doing so they gave us all a mandate. it was not a mandate to raise taxes on families and small businesses. it was a mandate to work together to begin solving the massive debt that threatens our country's future. >> reporter: the house and the senate will both be back in session tomorrow and the president has said he expects them to quickly vote to pass legislation to avoid the fiscal cliff, if, he and the speaker are able to make a deal b
with a colegislation of some of the members -- coalition of some of the members. do you expect speaker boehner will bring the bill to the floor of the house for a vote at all, and is his speakership at risk? >> the answer to the second question about the speakership is, no. this is a legislative issue, not a relationship issue. to your first point, i think the statement is well written which is that we're going to take a look at it and bring it to the floor. we will consider it. now, whether or not we amend it and find something that can get more republican support remains to be seen. see what the house wants to pass with republican majority. but i take my hat off to the leadership of at least giving the senate bill a vote. it's something that the senate has not done for us in a long time. so i'm glad to see we're going to be taking it up again. the house does go to session at 12, we're meeting at 1, so no chance we would vote on it before 1:00. heather: okay. you could amend it, how much longer would that take, add in the amendments, change it, and then where do we go? >> it depends. my guess
ago when speaker boehner had a plan to raise taxes on those earning more than $1 million, the feeling was that he had about 190 republican votes. if the will of 190 holes, then you'll get a -- then you'll get an oath -- if the 190 holds, then you will get a majority. it again, one thing we have learned in this game is that nothing is assured. host: now there is work to be done for this 113th congress. what is the dynamic there? guest: the democrats picked up a few seats in the senate. it is 55-45 at the moment. if john kerry is confirmed as secretary of state, then it goes to 54. democrats have a little more strength. the president gets inaugurated january 20, 21st. then we are back to fighting over the debt limit, the sequester, the continuing solutions. it goes on and on. host: give us the highlights of what was approved by the senate this morning. guest: the bush era tax rates continue for everybody except those individuals earning over $400,000 and families earning over $450,000. they want to bring the levels back to 39.6%. in addition, several other things. the alternative minimu
things by john boehner but he could have been right. democrats gave up a lot and they're going to be prime with giving up tax increases, the one thing they responded to about spending cuts for year so get ready for a lot of talk about spending cuts. >> anything to negotiate? >> i think spending cuts, reasonable democrats realize there have to be spending cuts. this is a new day, serious economic crisis. for 20 years we talked about for 20 years the republican party stood in the way of any meaningful tax increases and i think this was a big win for president obama and i do think the democrats acted responsibly. >> was it nice to wake up to this morning? >> the good thing also was that it was a compromise and the republicans were not, we didn't make the republicans, you know, pay for the entire election. >> let's leave with a smile on our face. thanks so much for being with us. you're all right yourself. >> thank you. >>> victor blackwell with "cnn newsroom" continues. >> good morning, happening in "the newsroom" dodging the fiscal cliff crisis for now. with all of the talk about
like had been on the table in so-called plan a, the $4 trillion debt deal he and john boehner had been talking about for weeks. so we might see a small bit of spending cuts just to stave off the sequester, the massive amount of spending cuts that will kick in at the beginning of the year to harm the pentagon and other agencies. if they are getting anything, there are low expectations but if they get anything it will be a very small deal, something much smaller than they have been talking about for weeks, jon. jon: there aren't too many people these meetings. so a little hard to get an assessment, what is your idea, what is your best, yeah, assessment i guess how things are between some of these leaders? >> reporter: they have gotten pretty tense the last couple of days as they have come back from the christmas holiday. we saw yesterday senate majority leader harry reid basically accusing john boehner of running a deck tate toreship, that was his word in the house of representatives. reid piled on a little bit late yesterday afternoon and senate republican leader mitch mcconnell respond
who covers capitol hill from us not to expect to hear from the speaker of the house john boehner after we hear from the president at 1:30pm. speaker boehner tried to put plan b of his own on the table and ended up not having the republican support for it, so he pulled back. as business watches these negotiations take place, and we heard from senator thune in mike emanuel's report a minute ago what is the reaction of the business community at this function that is on display in our nation's capitol. >> despair, anger frustration. if you go forward into 2013 not addressing spending, in fact the president wants to raise spending on struc infrastructure you go forward into next year doing that with tax increases on upper income people and some small business owners you will slow the economy down. business does not want a slower economy, it wants a more rapid rate of growth. the reaction from business to the kind of deal that seems to be shaping up, and i say that very reserved lee, their reaction istep eud at best, ev is t *erbgs pid at bess even though you have a modest rally a couple of
an obligation to do the best we can and that was made very clear. >> brown: house speaker john boehner aides said if the senate passes a bill the house will take it up and either accept or amend it and a short time ago president obama appeared in the white house briefing room with a statement. here is some of what he said. >> we had a constructive meeting today. senators reids and mcconnell are discussing a potential agreement where we can get a bipartisan bill out of the senate over to the house and done in a timely fashion so that we met the december 31st deadline. but given how things have been working in this town, we always have to wait and see until it actually happens. the one thing that the american people should not have to wait and see is some sort of action so if we don't see an agreement between the two leaders in the senate, i expect a bill to go on the floor. and i've asked senator reid to do this, put a bill on the floor that makes sure that taxes on middle-class families don't go up. that unemployment insurance is still available for 2 million people, and that lays the ground
." from washington, i'm krystal ball. reid calls boehner a dictator. ah, the holiday spirit. it is alive and well here. >>> i'm steve kornacki in new york. doesn't matter where you are. we are going to slide down the slope if a deal isn't reached. some faster than others. today, what you don't hear in all of this. straight talk when it comes to your wallet. >>> i'm toure. a big day today. anti-fragile. chaos can be good. oh, we'll make them mad today. >> maybe a little too much chaos for us who's still feeling under the weather, s.e. but we have a whole hour of "the cycle" starting right now. >>> it's basketball thursday here on "the cycle" and we have a classic for you as we relate dr. nasmith to the fiscal whatever here in washington. we take you to washington for last night's cavaliers-wizards game, a classic between the boehner-led cavs at 6-23 against the harry reid wizards at 3-22. pay attention, kornacki. cleveland won. the final was 87-84. this even though cleveland's best player irving missed 9 out of 10 shots in the second half and missed 4 out of 6 free-throws with no one guar
they wouldn't filibuster over here that he would support and that boehner would support, if it were reasonable, but right now we haven't heard anything. i don't know, and it's none of my business, i guess, although i am very serious, if the speaker and the majority leader, the republican leader over here are even talking. i mean, what's going on here? mr. president, you can't legislate with yourself. we have nobody to work with, to compromise. that's what legislation is all about, is the ability to compromise. the republicans in the house have left town. the negotiations between the president and the speaker have fallen apart as they have for the last three and a half years. we've tried mightily to get something done. just go over what the little drill here, mr. president, to remind everyone how unreasonable the republicans have been. senator conrad and judd gregg came up with a proposal to pattern what they wanted to do after the base closing commission. commission would be appointed and they would appoint back to us, no flust years, no amendment, yes or no like we did with the base closings
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